Right. So everyone is plenty excited to update to 2.0.2 to fix all those nasty bugs in 2.0 and 2.0.1 right? Well don’t bother. As far as I can tell it fixes nothing… unless you are on a 3g.
Before I say any more, I will say that the 3g baseband update to 2.08 provided me with a significant increase in signal bars for EDGE. I still cannot get 3g in my office, but my EDGE went from 2 bars to 5. If you have a 3g device, I suspect this, alone, is worth the update. Note though, the baseband update will probably neuter your ability to unlock with the upcoming unlocker from the dev team. Other benefit noted is that 3g to EDGE fallback now can occur without losing service which is nice if you’re on a call and it switches during you call.
Now then. The official release notes for the 2.0.2 firmware says “bug fixes”. So what bugs are fixed?
Reports on the internet say these bugs are fixed:
Sync time: Sync time with appstore apps takes forever. And I mean in the range of 1-2 hours. Anyways, this is not changed on 2.0. The sync time is stll horrible.
Stability: So far, 2.0.2 has crashed for me more times than 2.0 and 2.0.1 combined. In fact, the device managed to crash just sitting idle doing nothing! I mean literally the iPhone was in the dock and a few minutes later, apple logo and rebooting. App crashes have actually increased since the update. I have two devices updated and both exhibit the same behavior. If you are looking for increased stability, stay 2.0.2 does not provide it.
Contacts Lag: I never saw contacts lag in the first place and I still don’t see it now. Perhaps that is because I’m a hermit and don’t have enough contacts :)
Signal Bars: Ok significant gain due to 2.08 baseband for 3g. If you have a 2g, you do not get a baseband update and there will be no change here. This means if you were unlocked on 2g you will still be after the upgrade. When pwnage comes out, upgrading with pwnage will disable the baseband update (most likely) and you will not benefit from this. I am not sure if I get 3g from more locations around town or not though. I will take my iPhone out for a drive and test it. Update: I actually do get 3g more than I did on 2.0.1, but the same as I got on 2.0. 2.0.1 really was horrible for the 3g baseband.
AppStore / Cydia Lag: This is the most ridiculous bug and it’s still not fixed. Want to reproduce it easily? Install “Platinum Sudoku” followed by “Super Monkey Ball” and good luck ever installing anything from Cydia or AppStore again. It’s not as bad if you avoid the above two app installs, but it still is a pain in the back side. This is still not fixed. Our only hope is that Saurik can neuter this in Winterboard/ Mobile Substrate.
Mail Sync: As always, my mail crashed after I restored my backup just like 2.0, 2.01 etc. I can’t believe Apple would allow this problem to continue. Anyways, BossPrefs ‘fix user dir permission’ solves the problem. I guess it’s another example how the hacking community managed to fix one of Apple’s bugs. For those that don’t jailbreak? Well, I guess you can’t restore your backup.
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1. brandon August 23rd, 2008, 10:23 am
The sync time is definitely horrible, but I hate the keyboard lag when typing an SMS… this is one thing I wish would get fixed.
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2. sps August 23rd, 2008, 10:26 am
What do you mean by 2.0.8?
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BigBoss Reply:
August 23rd, 2008 at 10:36 am
The modem firmware baseband on 3g iPhones with this firmware is now 2.08.01. On 2.0.1, it was 1.48.02. This is a significant rev in modem firmware. Probably bad news for unlockers. But those that just want solid service, it’s a decent 3g update from 2.0.1 for this reason alone.
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3. G August 23rd, 2008, 10:42 am
I am a new iPhone user (3 weeks) do you think they will come out with an update that will improve signal strength (more bars) for non 3G iPhones?
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4. Randy Bryan August 23rd, 2008, 10:49 am
I found a way to fix ALL of these errors AND the lagginess!! I downgraded my 2G iPhone back to 1.1.4. Now I have it all again: free software, speed, minimal crashing. I plan on staying away from 2.0 for the near future.
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sendblink23 Reply:
August 26th, 2008 at 1:43 am
hahahaa ure funny
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5. iambored8907 August 23rd, 2008, 10:50 am
I maybe going crazy but my 3G seems a little faster and stable if I remove most of the apps from the springboard and use the new dock. My phone seems to start faster and respring faster. I bet categories for 2.0 would help just as much :)
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BigBoss Reply:
August 26th, 2008 at 1:58 pm
Unfortunately it won’t because springboard still has to enumerate all the apps :(
The lag you are seeing is a springboard lag.
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6. Ben August 23rd, 2008, 11:20 am
I did a fresh restore using apple’s 2.0.2 firmware then hopped on my friends windows box and used quickpwn to jailbreak it. I too was experiencing many problems in the past, but since doing this everything has been much smoother. I also am noticing an exponential increase in my battery life. Not sure where that come from.
I am reinstalling my cydia apps slowly one by one and monitoring the battery in hopes I can fully unerstand why the increase.
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7. Anonymous August 23rd, 2008, 11:42 am
thanks for letting us know about this… by the way i have a 1st gen iphone… if i update my baseband, am i gonna get better signal ??
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kameko Reply:
August 23rd, 2008 at 11:45 am
did you not read the article at all???
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8. Andrew Tan August 23rd, 2008, 12:30 pm
Yes I agree! firmware 2.0.2 is terrible.
Apple FIX NOTHING!
Firmware 2.0.2 is worst than 2.0.1 and 2.0
“I really disappointed how come Apple can out such downgrade firmware”
The Stability is crazy!
I manage to get:
Firmware 2.0 - 4 page of full apps
Firmware 2.0.1 - 5 page of full apps
Firware 2.0.2 - < than 3 page of full apps and it start crash!!!!! What!!!!
NO UPDATES is capable after reach it maximum because it start crash.
And always install big file size apps before smaller size apps…because more page you have, it get more easy to crash!
APPLE NOW IS CRAP THAN MICROSOFT!!
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Elric Reply:
August 24th, 2008 at 3:43 pm
LOL, what?!?
Perhaps you should restore then try again, you obviously messed something up yourself.
Don’t blame Apple for your noobiness. :)
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BigBoss Reply:
August 26th, 2008 at 2:01 pm
I have noticed it is worse with some apps installed than with others. For example, supermonkey ball + platinum sudoku seems to be a killer. I’m sure there are others. I have noticed if you install any of these combinations that you get these problems much more. Also, once installed uninstalling them doesn’t solve it. You have to restore from scratch and avoid the combination in the first place.
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9. reznor9 August 23rd, 2008, 1:21 pm
I upgraded that thought this was the worst update ever. Crashed like crazy. By then I disabled some of my winterboard themes. I had like 5 or 6 running. And the phone is smooth as can be. Only problem I’ve had is keyboard lag in the SMS app every now and then, other than that seems pretty solid. 4 pages of apps. 2.0.2 unlocked and jailbroken. Iphone 2G
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10. A.T August 23rd, 2008, 1:31 pm
2.0.1 fixed most of the bugs for me that were on 2.0 and now 2.0.2 made my iPhone even worse than 2.0. I’ve got the horrible lag back in SMS which 2.0.1 got rid off but 2.0.2 brought it back:-(
QuickPwn although made my iPhone run a little bit quicker. The only keyboard lag now is in SMS.
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11. WM August 23rd, 2008, 2:12 pm
HI
I just want to know if it is possible to have cydia (so an iphone 3g jailbroken) and to udgrade the phone without having app such as cydia or bossprefs crashing??
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12. mmick August 23rd, 2008, 2:33 pm
I don´t understand:
- I didn´t have *any* crash (4 pages full of icons) in 2 days
- Everything snappier than ever
- iTunes syncronized 4Gb Music, 600Mb videos, 12 Appstore Apps, all contacts, calender in a few minutes
PS: I *did* FORMAT my iPhone BEFORE installing 2.0.2 (that full format done on iPhone´s Settings that takes near 1h).
As 2.0.2 installation keeps apps/files of previous versions, that could be the problem of your phones AFAIK
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Andrew Tan Reply:
August 23rd, 2008 at 3:20 pm
Format?
Sorry..what format you mean by?
I did a DFU restore…I though this is already a clean install.
I face crash when I syncs lots of huge file size applications especially all those make by Gamehouse.
All apps I install list at my blog:
http://elementsofwatashi.blogspot.com/
:)
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BigBoss Reply:
August 23rd, 2008 at 8:46 pm
I sort of doubt that everybody’s phones are broken except yours…
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13. Dominus August 23rd, 2008, 4:32 pm
Regarding the AppStore / Cydia Lag, I just wanted to clarify as I am seeing some huge issues 2.0.1. I have been on it since it was pwned, using my mac, but this week all of a sudden, I goto install Dock through Cydia, and it is stuck on the installing screen (before it gets to the Close Cydia button), it stayed there for over 30 minutes, and got incredibly warm. So I rebooted the device several times, it never got past the pineapple, I eventually had to force it into restore mode and restore my backup….I have had to do this several times at this point, ANYTHING I install is either hit or miss….this is a completely new issue to me, and I have done numerous restores at this point….is this the issue you’re talking about, or is this new?
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mmick Reply:
August 23rd, 2008 at 4:56 pm
On “settings, general (I think) you have an option to erase your iPhone completely like a format (takes 1h)”. Perhaps you should do it and then install 2.0.2 and it should stay perfect
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Andrew Tan Reply:
August 24th, 2008 at 2:39 am
OK…
I will try it once it crash again.
I hope it really solve the crash issue as you said format. takes one hour? hmmm…..
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Andrew Tan Reply:
August 24th, 2008 at 4:44 am
They is no such setting call “Format”
The only I found is “Reset all setting” but that only few seconds to complete.
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BigBoss Reply:
August 26th, 2008 at 2:04 pm
This is a full erase option in advanced settings of pwnage or winpwn. This will not solve any issues. It is only for paranoid folks that plan to sell a phone and don’t want an expert somehow extracting the data off of it. The format you use now is fine, it is like a format on a computer hard drive. The disk wipe option that takes an hour writes a bunch of 0’s and 1’s to each sector to make sure that the data cannot be extracted later. It’s a waste of an hour for anyone that is not selling the device and it will not solve any of the above issues.
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14. Kevintino August 23rd, 2008, 4:42 pm
I did the QuickPwn on my 2.0.2 (2G). All processes went through smoothly, no issue at all with my iPhone is fucntioning properly. Is it speedier than 2.0.1? I’m not so sure for my case. However, it doesn’t crash or slow down the operations for sure.
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15. GNice August 23rd, 2008, 5:09 pm
I’m not touching 2.0.2. The risk is just not worth the reward for me.
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A.T Reply:
August 23rd, 2008 at 9:28 pm
I made the mistake of upgrading to 2.0.2, my iPhone is in a worser state than 2.0.1.
After using quikpwn, it’s speeded up a little. Thanks dev team.
We should all complain to Apple
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16. Indervir August 23rd, 2008, 5:09 pm
Yo guys,
I recommened: Do NOT Update to 2.0.2
Reason: Slow, and reinstall all apps, many problems like calling lower phone call signal.
I recommened: UPDATE/STICK to 2.0
Reason: Now via Cydia you can do half of things such as video recording MxTube Camera with zoom etc…
And via mininova.org the BGRMK Packages have a readme with the instructions and all the AppStore packages for free and how to install them… I have 6 Pages of full (Half AppStore & Cydia). Apps.
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mmick Reply:
August 23rd, 2008 at 9:33 pm
2.0? You have to be joking, it´s the worst iPhone firmware!
2.0.1 is really nice and 2.0.2 (after formating iPhone) is fantastic, fast and stable.
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17. Doug August 23rd, 2008, 5:28 pm
I have platinum sudoku, platinum solitaire, super monkey ball, cro-mag rally, moto racer, and more installed(and I don’t have any issues with the App Store. . .or Cydia either.
Then again I don’t have this ‘crashing issue’ that you seem to be having.
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Andrew Tan Reply:
August 24th, 2008 at 2:36 am
Try install as much apps you can…and if you success reach over 6 pages of full apps…then it means it is stable.
It keep crashing when reaching 5 pages of apps.
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sendblink23 Reply:
August 26th, 2008 at 1:37 am
i have already maxed out 9 pages it runs the same way still tested on all versions 2.0.0 2.0.1 2.0.2 the most stable is 2.0.1 the rest crashes too much very unstable.. the act more laggy when wifi or edge is activated on the same time
anyways best downgrade to 2.0.1 pwn and wait till 2.1 expect all props and cons afterwards we hope it goes well to ever decide to upgrade for a less buggy Operating System
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Andrew Tan Reply:
August 26th, 2008 at 4:24 am
I didn’t on my wifi during sync apps. I even try off my PC wifi and do nothing during sync.
But result still remain same, after reach page 4, I need to shut off the unit and on back to continue and the max I get is 6 pages.
I am using iPod touch 16GB with firmware 2.0, 2.0.1 and 2.0.2 with or without jailbreak. All test…all same result….never success reach more than 6 pages.
18. Serg August 23rd, 2008, 5:36 pm
i guess i will stick with 2.0.1 firmware until the 2.1 release in September … hopefully apple bangs out fixes for all these problems …. you would think a month should be enough time right?
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19. Confusious August 23rd, 2008, 6:08 pm
Hmmmm, think I am going to avoid using 2.02, even when PWNG 2.03 for mac actually arrives because so far everything is running like a dream on my 16gb 2.01 jailbroken iFone. The only issue I have in the slow back up time when syncing my phone through iTunes.
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BigBoss Reply:
August 26th, 2008 at 2:07 pm
If it’s not broke dont fix it.
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20. Confusious August 23rd, 2008, 6:10 pm
just had another thought. Would I be right to be suspicious of these apple up-dates when the bugs seemingly do not get solved? I mean, is it just a case of Apple trying to screw up the hackers, jail breaking etc?
;-)
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A.T Reply:
August 23rd, 2008 at 9:30 pm
I don’ think so because they haven’t updated the baseband on 2G iPhone since the 2.0FW only on 3G.
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21. chris shields August 23rd, 2008, 9:34 pm
I too am having problems, I can’t open any of the apps
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22. asa August 23rd, 2008, 11:19 pm
thx for the review. Having the 2g I think I will not upgrade until the 2.1 comes out next month. Hopefully…. Apple gets there crap together..
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23. Shady P. August 24th, 2008, 2:03 am
Hey your not alone i downgraded form 2.0.2 cuz it was so crappy. cant wait for jailbroken 2.1
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24. Sebastien August 24th, 2008, 3:24 pm
Just do the JB/Activation installer Cydia on my Mac with quickpowned under Parallel….
I also do not see benefit of this update but I am on 2.02 now :-)
Thanks
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25. Andrew August 24th, 2008, 5:28 pm
I too had the mail app crash problem with 2.0.2 install. Some things i noticed:
1. Installation of 2.0.2 too 2+ hours (unlike 2.0.1)
2. Restore of my data took a long time
3. I too resorted to BossPrefs “fix dir perms” to get passed mail crash
4. Did a backup
5. Did a restore of firmware 2.0.2 - this went fast
6. Did a restore of user data - again this went fast
7. Mail worked fine
So I think there may be something getting wacked in the firmware update that screws up permissions and doing a user data restore doesn’t fix it. Weird that is broken one time, but not the next.
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BigBoss Reply:
August 26th, 2008 at 2:08 pm
This mail app bug has existed with Apple since 1.1.3. They are obviously not working to fix it.
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26. EbizMan August 24th, 2008, 5:28 pm
2.0.2 killed my iPhone. The update rendered my 3G (I have a 1st gen also) unusable and I had to restore… however, the restore did not work and I had to go to another PC and do the restore from a pristine copy of iTunes.
Then after restoring and reloading my music/apps, I have noticed a marked decrease in battery life. Battery life was poor to begin with and now it is just horrible. I can be fully charged before going to bed and it will be just about dead when I awake… about 7 hours with “no” activity… I just do not get it.
Very disappointing that Apple would release what seems to be a very poorly tested release.
Any tips? About the only thing I have seen above that I have not done that looks worth a try is formatting the iPhone and then reloading 2.0.2… have not done that, not sure I know how, but can probably figure it out. Willing to try anything at this point.
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Liton Reply:
August 26th, 2008 at 9:48 am
TRY a full restore in DFU mode. Like as you said the battery issue I noticed that it is mainly the firmware updating issue. Like an example I had one phone 1.1.4 (Ziphone unlock) and then I noticed that the battery is draining in one hour and it does not want to take charge even. So i DFU restore to 1.1.4 again, Not solved, then just restore to 2.0.1 not solved, then DFU restore to 2.0.1 and seems now stable. I was thinking to go for 2.0.2 but I will not after read all of this things.
If you have SSH / Wifi on , turn it off
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27. Elric August 24th, 2008, 7:48 pm
Fuck shit damn!
I upgraded to 2.0.2 cause a week went by with no Pwnage…
Now everything runs smoother, no more contact lag, sms is uber fast responsive…. BUT
Now for the first time, I am getting what a LOT of people have complained about and I just counted my blessings. Backup takes FOREVER, not 10-20 seconds anymore, like REALLLLY long, minutes! Can I somehow go back in time 2 hours?
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28. Ma5ter August 24th, 2008, 8:25 pm
Everyone who have problems should try install new update 2.0.2 without restoring old backup. 100% this is your problem, and of course Winterboard is cause for many Lag. I change docks and icons manually without using of Winterboard, and have to admit, my Iphone with 2.0.2 Quickpawned is faster and stable then ever!
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BigBoss Reply:
August 26th, 2008 at 2:11 pm
I will have to disagree with this one. Sure there are some themes that may cause lag. But just having winterboard and a standard summerboard type theme will not cause *any* lag.
I also don’t believe restoring a backup causes lag. Instead, it causes permission errors that can all be fixed mostly using bossprefs.
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29. mathieu August 25th, 2008, 12:49 am
hi guys
well i have a prob . sometime the font of my iphone like on the lockscreen of even on the home page its written like very small and its doing this randomly
can some1 help me for this one
thanks
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30. Kevintino August 25th, 2008, 2:34 pm
Well, after 3 days with 2.0.2 (iPhone 2G)! I’m done with it! It is slowing down my iPhone especially opening the SMS and Setting, and as well as Cydia!
I’m now back to 2.0.1! Everythig is better now, compared to 2.0.2!
I guess 2.0.2 is good for iPhone 3G, but bad for iPhone 2G!
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31. Craig August 25th, 2008, 8:00 pm
Eh i think it adds “databases” in the “safari” section of the settings app.
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32. sendblink23 August 26th, 2008, 1:30 am
i totally agree with u 2.0.2 is only worth it for edge on a 3g i also had the same issues as u WAY Buggy no matter on a 2nd gen or 3g or an iTouch they all started having too many proplems on me testing with pwn 2.0.2
well anywsys id say u should focus on making CATEGORIES it has been weeks since i’ve mention im already at max Apps on my smb on all my devices, 9 windows completely full i cant install anything else ive been weeks being and im tired of not being able to create folders to be able to organize and be able to install more apps
Sorry but i’m being honest you should already at least finsh it and release at least a Betaversion on Cydia
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BigBoss Reply:
August 26th, 2008 at 2:13 pm
I don’t think categories will allow you to increase the amount of apps installed. Springboard still enumerates the apps and doesn’t realize they’re hidden away.
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sendblink23 Reply:
August 27th, 2008 at 7:05 pm
well i’ve had many more apps than 9 Pages in total when i had 1.1.4 so it does make a point hiding apps causes it to read diffrently having the oportunity to have more apps than allowed pages, because your folders you created with your App makes it think its 1app(folder having infinate space of apps) so you can still have max 9 pages and still have Folders with more apps inside because i had it that way before in the past before 2.0
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33. Tino August 26th, 2008, 7:29 am
Ok guys! I repwned again but without Instsller, just Cydia! Somehow, my 2G iPhone is performing brilliantly! Could the lags and crashes caused by the latest buggy beta Installer?
May be some of you may want to repwn it without the Installer to futher confirm my point? Thanks!
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34. moedinha August 26th, 2008, 12:57 pm
There’s not a single update so far that fixed my wifi, so one can only hope for the next…
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35. plink August 26th, 2008, 1:59 pm
sry, i haz Fail!
Hmmm…. I am unable to build the custom fw. Pwnage Tool unfortunately fails on the attaching ramdisk part
2008-08-26 18:29:50 - Attaching Restore Ramdisk to ‘/Volumes/ramdisk’.
2008-08-26 18:31:41 - FAIL
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2008-08-26 18:31:42 - Failed to build custom .ipsw file.
I also have a really cute picture of a kitten in a mug :) the picture is nice, but I’m not able to build a firmware image which I am sure will make the kitten sad if it understood the concept.
any ideas folks? I have enough space, permissions on /Volumes look cool but I don’t get asked for the admin password during this mount process. I guess this is the problem.
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plink Reply:
August 26th, 2008 at 2:04 pm
ahh sorry, wrong topic !
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36. Peter Riviera August 26th, 2008, 10:47 pm
Apple’s moderator keeps censoring me on the Apple discussion site. After talking to customer service today, they say it’s bad hardware causing all my issues and that the hardware mysteriously went bad the day I upgraded to 2.0. Yeah, right.
So, I mention that it’s time for a class action lawsuit since they ruined my fuckin phone, but they didn’t like that so no legal talk on Apple’s boards!
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37. Collin August 27th, 2008, 4:16 pm
Is it possible that these latest 2.0.1 and 2.0.2 updates blocked the T-Zones TMobileWeb tweak for 2.x? I’ve been reading a lot about this not working and I believe the updates to be the culprit. Some people have it working using the more expensive data plan BUT not the Tmobile Web plan (5.99). I’ve had this plan for ages…so if thebigboss.org (provided of the tweak) could help out that’d be great!! Thanks
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38. battal September 14th, 2008, 1:43 pm
iphone 3g 2.0.2 firware
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39. battal September 14th, 2008, 1:44 pm
iphone sorry
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41. hedayat September 16th, 2008, 5:47 pm
i want iphone unlock software
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