So I was catching up on the recent events of the morning and came across Zibri’s latest post. Hoping it would provide me some entertainment, I read it. I noticed something in his post that I believe is untrue and nothing anyone has to worry about so I decided to post it here and explain:
Zibri states in his latest status update:
“About the ’soon to be released’ hacks,
think about the playstation or online games;
you can crack them, but you won’t be able
to play online with legit buyers.
Now think: what is an offline iPhone?
A paperweight.
That’s what you’re gonna have
if (WHEN) apple decides to push a button.
And this time they will.”
To this, I want to speak. There is no way Apple can “push one button” and turn your phone into a brick. They cannot kick you offline either. Shame on Zibri for trying to generate some panic amongst those that are not so technically inclined. This data is false please disregard it. It is impossible for Apple to kick you offline for any reason. They do not control the networks! So, please no one worry about this shinanigens.
The worst thing Apple can do is kick you off Appstore. And, to this, I say it is ridiculous. Apple is making a a fortune off you from Appstore and would never do something like this. Estimates say 30% of folks jailbreak their phone. They would never turn off 30% of potential sales. They haven’t kicked anyone off iTunes store for jailbreaking.
Anyways, I will be looking forward to the upcoming 2.0 jailbreak. You should be too.
Tags: Speculation, zibri
July 16th, 2008 at 2:12 pm
Yeah, you are right!
I agree with you.
Besides everything apple can do, they will not stop or break something that is making money for them.
Regards,
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July 16th, 2008 at 2:16 pm
I think zibri did the wrong thing giving ppl too much “allarmism” , just like iRev from darkapples did…
these people are talking like they know everything… they are certainly competent persons, but i think they CAN’T say such allarmant things without evidences….
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July 16th, 2008 at 2:20 pm
… it’s a campaign started about a week ago, here in Italy, by iRev (the guy who develops the mac version of ziphone)
In “iPhone 2.0: Game Over” (http://www.darkapples.net/?p=3) he said there was no way *for anyone* to unlock the new fw as… every single bit is signed and controlled by TC
Then, after devs videos, he said “Bravo’!” (http://www.darkapples.net/?p=15) but… thet’s not a hack: it’s a custom firmware, they’re different beasts.
Finally he wrote “Start Me Up” (http://www.darkapples.net/?p=19) stating the same things zibri says today
btw: comments are not alouded on iRev’s “blog”
… funny, isn’t it? ;-)
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July 16th, 2008 at 2:29 pm
What a ridiculous comment from someone who stole from other people to make a name from himself. He should be ashamed. The most alarming part of this is that the poeple that read his blog are like “drone-zombies” who follow his comments like he’s some kind of cyber god. Just have a look and laff for yourself!
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July 16th, 2008 at 3:40 pm
You see, it’s not that he can’t hack 2.0 on its own, he has lost interest in iPhone and donations and stuff… hehehe… he’s so bored that he’ll start hacking gPhone instead, so keep up with the donations. ;)
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July 16th, 2008 at 7:55 pm
Zibri is making me sick, his blog is full of people brown nosing him, and he is doing nothing, not one piece of info to suggest he is even working on an update to ZiPhone, it’s looking more and more likely that he is simply waiting for the Dev Team to release their tool first so he can then modify it.
I myself have used ZiPhone, yet even I can see he is simply raking in the praise and donations, and not even letting his “followers” know how far he has gotten with updating his app, this time round i’m going with the Dev Team simply because they have given enough info to know I should be using their app, and they have confirmed they are working on a Windows version, which takes Zibri out of the loop, seeing as most people used his app because it was for Win.
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July 16th, 2008 at 11:51 pm
Apple could mischievously put some code in that would physically brick the devices. Apple can’t ‘ban you from the networks’. . .but breaking the device is even worse.
Do I think Apple would do it? No. . .but they could.
If they did, I’m sure the lawsuits would be pouring in. . .but it is possible.
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July 17th, 2008 at 6:59 am
We have to remember that the “network” is not controlled by Apple. That is true. But that truth has a flip side, also. Apple is, to some extent, controlled by the network.
Every stage of the iPhone deployment and development has been with reference to what is “allowed” by the network. For example, making Skype or other VOIP clients run on a mobile broaband able device would be child’s play. It would be massively popular, and it would harm the network owners. therefore, the iPhone is developed to take this into account and to favor the network owners.
Zibri is not being alarmist, he is just noting the inescapable evidence that Apple is doing what needs to be done to satisfy the networks. And he is suggesting what could be done, if that trend continues to its logical conclusion. What he is saying is that if there is enough money in the deal for Apple, they will make their hardware network friendly and consumer draining. Like vista.
And he is right.
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July 17th, 2008 at 12:27 pm
Sorry cynik, I can’t see how you can arrive at that conclusion. First off, any sort of “phone kill” would have to originate from the carrier not from Apple. There is technically no possible way for Apple to kill phones on their own. Therefore, here are two scenarios:
1) I’m paying AT&T (or other contract carrier) for service. I jailbreak my phone. AT&T would not want my phone turned into a “brick” because I would stop paying them. Therefore, they would not put pressure onto Apple to make this happen. Remember, AT&T would have to kill my phone, a paying customer. The thought of this happening is so ridiculous I can’t imagine anyone even trying to argue it is a possibility. It’s not.
2) I unlocked my phone and am paying T-Mobile. T-Mobile has no affiliations with Apple. T-Mobile has no idea my device is an iPhone and Apple has no way to kill my phone without the carrier. T-Mobile doesn’t care that the device is hacked. They only care about my $$ coming to them every month. Even if Apple wanted to shut this down, they have no control over T-Mobile’s network and there’s nothing that can be done.
It should be clear now that it is absolutely impossible for Zibri’s scenario to come to fruition. Killing phones on the networks does not “satisfy the networks”. But that arguement aside, it is simply impossible.
That all aside, there is no technical way for AT&T or anyone to “kill” a phone. What they would have to do is blacklist an IMEI. But there is no way that would ever happen. It would be like all gas stations trying to blacklist a car from buying gasoline or a grocery store insisting a family cannot purchase food. That’s not how society works.
I left this out of my original posting, but I think it’s an important point as to Zibri’s motivation for posting these things. Zibri has no more hacks to steal from the Dev-Team. His last two posts have been “excuses” for how he can safely exit from the jailbreak providing scene and maybe not look so bad. Anyone should be able to see that by now.
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July 17th, 2008 at 12:35 pm
I think Zibri based it on the video that Apple posted a while back re: Enterprise support. If an iPhone was lost/stolen then a remote wipe could be performed… (http://www.myappleguide.com/news/apple-hardware/article1060-039remote-wipe039-feature-accessible-all-iphone-users)
There’s no way a Apple would do this -and why would they when they are currently making shed loads from us all -i.e iphone sales, iTunes, App Store, SDK licences…
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July 17th, 2008 at 12:55 pm
Hi,
I guess Zibri is just trying to get into poetry.
We cannot expect such great words for someone that gains popularity by stealing ideas … the truth is that we only see negativism from him and no help at all.
Zibri, poetry must be positive. :)
Anyway …
BTW, Great blog you have. Not so technical as I wished but very useful.
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July 17th, 2008 at 1:39 pm
ZiBri is chattin hoop…
…instead of talkin through your arse get on with developing the software!
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July 17th, 2008 at 7:06 pm
“he is simply waiting for the Dev Team to release their tool first so he can then modify it”
that phrase said it all, damn zibri software fuk up my first iphone
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July 17th, 2008 at 7:53 pm
i also love that if you look at every response on zibri’a sites comments that all of them are positive He goes through each one and if they contain any negative about “his software” he deletes them and doesn’t allow them to be published to the public… this does not seem like net neutrality and hes just making it seem like his is the best out there and that the hard working iPhone dev team are a bunch of non-knowledgeable, idiots that don’t know how to do anything well here’s what i say the dev team know their Sh** and zibri doesn’t know how to get himself out of a wet paper bag that’s been in a pond soaking for 3 weeks and if that doesn’t tell you what zibri knows/doesn’t know little ZiPhoners that don’t know anything either should be shot for stupidity along with your false iPhone god zibri
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July 19th, 2008 at 4:58 pm
Although Zibri seems to be gaining an unsavoury reputation.
Apple can take steps to ensure App store apps will not play with Installer apps. It is there firmware and they control the signing of App Store apps during each sync (correct me if I’m wrong).
The new WinPwn is supposed to allow both app store app and installer apps to play together, but for how long remains an uncertainty.
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July 19th, 2008 at 5:12 pm
They can only change it on the next update. Then that gets jailbroken again to fix it and the cycle continues. Still nothing they can do to “brick” remotely.
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